Cyclothymia

March 25, 2010

EDIT: I have posted an update on my experience with cyclothymia as of two years later here.

I have recently been diagnosed with Cyclothymia disorder. It’s a type of bipolar disorder. The main differences are more rapid cycling (abrupt shifts in mood or “polarities”) and less intense swings than those with bipolar disorder.

I’ll explain more as we go along, but first…

Why I’m Writing This:
One day a 19 year-old teenager comes home dazed from a meeting with his Psychiatrist. He has just learned that, according to the guy he’s seeing, he’s suffering from a subset of bipolar disorder called Cyclothymia. He is very confused.

Feverishly, he asks Google about it. Okay…so Cyclothymia is a type of bipolar disorder with less extreme polarity on both ends. You don’t get so depressed you want to kill yourself, but you aren’t so “manic” you think you can fly. Great, sounds like my life, he thinks.

But as he looks around for articles, blog entries, forum posts, written by young people that could shed some light on living with the disorder, he finds only the occasional YouTube clip and an old Yahoo group related to the illness.

While this wasn’t my experience, it very well could have been. I did my own research and self-diagnosed before ever seeing a professional, but it doesn’t usually work that way. There really is an incredible lack of awareness and content written about the disorder online, which is why I’ve decided to type this piece, possibly the longest I’ve ever written.

Now, full disclaimer: I could be a charlatan. I’m probably not, but Psychological diagnosis are anything but fool-proof, and the doctor relies heavily on the patient’s self-description of events and patterns in their lives.

This seems like a pretty decent segway into…

Diagnosis:
The web is full of stories from people who walked into a Psychologist’s office, talked about their grades in school, and walked out with ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder). The same stories exist about Cyclothymia and Bipolar I disorder.

A Psychiatrist can only see you for something like 45 minutes per week (if you’re lucky and insured), so they only thing they have in their toolbox is your perception of your behavior, and their tiny window of analysis. I don’t doubt that thousands of patients are misdiagnosed with mood disorder’s every year. But I also believe the same amount aren’t diagnosed when they should be.

I went through the same existential quest when I self-diagnosed myself with ADHD. Until someone gives you a prescription, it just feels like complaining.

But after meetings with Psychiatrist who made me more anxious than I was before to Psychologists who told me exactly what I wanted to hear, I think I have become to understand the value of self-diagnosis. Sure, hypochondria is a risk (wonder how often that’s self-diagnosed?), and sometimes when you’re looking for answers that fit it’s all too easy to ignore the symptoms that don’t, but if you’ve done the research and examined your life comprehensively, sometimes the safest thing is to recognize the illness within yourself.

Out of all of the posts about Cyclothymia I found on mental health forums, at least 75% were titled something like “How do I know I have it?”,or “Not sure if I have it…” The most asked question from those looking into the disorder is: What does it feel like?

It’s probably a good time to talk about that.

What Cyclothymia Feels Like:
Right now I’m riding in a Muni car. I’m on the K line to be exact. Riding toward City College San Francisco’s Ocean campus. Right now I feel pretty good. But unlike someone who wakes up, goes to work, and waits for their boss to piss them off, I have no such emotional guarantee. I’m constantly PMSing.

The result is some really fast typing. I write as rapidly as I can not because I’m worried there won’t be a tomorrow, but because there won’t be another hour. I don’t think I’m going to die, but my enthusiasm, productivity, and creativity very well could. Think I’m overreacting?

Let me show you a graph of my moods for an average week. It is on a scale from 1 to 10. A mood-score of 1 means I’m feeling pretty close to suicidal. A 10 means I’m out of control hypomanic (what’s that? I’ll tell ya later), buying expensive steak dinners, and climbing telephone poles (all things I’ve done).

Graph of my moods

Anybody can have a bad day, a bad moment, a bad couple of hours. Anyone can get a letter in the mail that makes them smile, get asked out on a date by their crush, get a sugar high. It’s when these moods shift without a trigger, in the middle of a benign activity like cooking dinner or brushing teeth, that it becomes a disorder. When you don’t feel safe making plans for longer than a few hours away because you don’t trust yourself to be in the mood to see anyone.

I spend most of my days like this:

  • Wake up. Cheerful or miserable.
  • Shower. Inspired or furious.
  • Get to the Muni station. Happy-go-lucky or in tears.
  • Get to class. Loving my classmates like siblings or wishing I had never enrolled.
  • Midway through class: Violent shifts in mood, sometimes two to three times. Almost always extreme polar opposites.
  • Get out of class: Sometimes I cry as I take the Muni home (no reason) and sometimes I am inspired and write, like now.
  • Afternoon. Cook something and decide I hate cooking midway through. Purposely burn everything I spent an hour preparing. Get angry at myself for wasting my time and food. Start to cry. Put on a movie and lay motionless in bed until I have to leave for class.
  • As I walk to class, you might see me scowling and muttering to myself, purposely bumping into people on the street, almost shoving them. Or, you might see me listening to an audiobook and smiling as the author makes a joke. I might get to class breathless, brimming with enthusiasm, or sullen and shriveled, refusing to make eye-contact.
  • My teachers have begun checking in with me in the middle of class: “How are you feeling?” they’ll ask. And they’re right to.
  • Then I walk home to Chanterelle, and she, in her graceful acceptance, searches my face as I walk through the door, trying to gauge who I am. Sometimes I hate her, I don’t want to talk to her, and I feel like emailing my friends to let them know I never want to see them again. Sometimes I tackle her and kiss her on the bed.
  • Go to sleep and start the whole process again.

I’m not being over-dramatic. Some days really are better than others, but some are so bad I genuinely consider committing myself. No one knows this of course, because when I’m up I don’t really remember being down, and when I’m down, I don’t really remember anything rational.

I’m making it sound like multiple personality disorder – but really it’s not like that.

You see: none of the thoughts I had when I was in my alternate state make sense to me. I write down how I’m feeling when it’s really strong, just so I can remember later. But when I’m up, why should I read that depressing junk? And when I’m down, well, what’s the use?

Hypomania and Dysthymia:
Hypomania (our ups) is a type of mild mania. True mania usually involves running down the sidewalk with a gun, and very little sleep. I believe I have had a few genuinely manic times in my life (most people with mood disorders do, even if they’re not full-blown bipolar), and though it was suggested at these times that I might be bipolar, it wasn’t pursued.

“After all,” my parents would say to the doctors, “he seems to function fine most of the time.”

If you know me in real life, you may have experienced me in a state of hypomania. You know you’re hypomanic when:

  • You’ve suddenly realized you have more money than you know what to do with, and that you need to spend it as quickly as you can.
  • You finally realized how inconsequential due dates and pithy little errands are, and now you need to spend as much time having fun as you can to make up for lost time.
  • You have just noticed how incredibly slow everyone is, and you feel the name to tell everyone in line at Walgreens about it.
  • The thought: “Later is good, but now is better,” has become your single governing rule when it comes to buying things.
  • Everything routine seems boring and useless, you must rearrange your life, now!

Additionally, people in a state of hypomania are often viewed as charming and confident. This is magnified by their momentary spontaneity. For this reason, Cyclothymia often goes diagnosed for years. Hypomania has a pretty face, and the depressive state doesn’t last long enough to keep an appointment with a Psychiatrist.

Dysthymia (our downs) just means depression. The difference, as far as I can tell, is that it goes farther than just “being sad.” While all of us can get sad, very said in the case of a breakup or death, dysthymia is chemical. When the brain is in a dysthymic state, we very well may be experiencing genuine, sad emotions, but the feeling is magnified with an imbalance of natural chemicals.

You know you’re dysthymic when:

  • You can feel your muscles flexing as you restrain yourself from hitting the guy on the bus who doesn’t offer the old woman his seat.
  • Musicians playing on the street cause you to sit in a corner and cry, even if you were feeling fine a moment before.
  • You are angry at your girlfriend for “stealing” your headphones even though you offered them to her yourself just that morning.
  • Smiling to someone who smiles at you on the street causes a shock of pain to your heart.

I think everyone has their own ways of dealing with dysthymia (hereafter referred to as depression, typing “d-y-s-t-h-y-m-i-a” every few seconds is a pain).

The problem I have when I’m chemically depressed is that as soon as I realize I’m upset, I try to think of a reason. If there isn’t a reason, I make one up. I cling to things that have never bothered me, and before you know it, I find myself tangled in the web. Then, like a fly, I try to struggle free and think my way out. Turns out this is a waste of time when you’re being held-down and injected with downers.

So much of my days over the past few months have been spent tracking and monitoring myself, trying in vein to think my way to balance, there hasn’t been much time left for anything else. Did you wonder why I haven’t been blogging?

Let me tell you how it affects my work.

Productivity:
Hypomania has an excellent reputation for productivity. You’re supposed to feel inspired, obsessed with getting stuff done, and completely free of the need for sleep. Most of the time, however, this isn’t the reality. As I alluded to above, when I am feeling hypomanic (hereafter referred to as high, apparently it feels very much like a mild hit of heroin) I “forget” about due-dates. I’m above them. The stuff will get done. There’s plenty of time. So I do something else.

When I’m depressed, I have no motivation to live life as I have. In fact, I hate life as it is, and if not getting my homework done is what it takes to escape the oppressive walls of the classroom, I’m going to make that sacrifice. After all, I think at the time, I don’t have much else to sacrifice. Everything I have is rented-to-own from hell anyways. So I do something else. Or nothing.

Do you see the problem?

Most of my time is spent oscillating between these two states. Every once in a while (once a week, maybe) I get a day like today. A day when I maintain enough stability and balance to keep my head out of the clouds and free of aches long enough to get something done.

These days, while not “fun” like my highs, make me feel good. They’re like gold, and just as rare. On these days, I have a sense of self-control. It may not be reliable, but it’s there, and I hold on with both hands.

Assuming these mood-swings don’t go away, and my days continue to go the way they were, what will I do? How will I function as I go on? In school, a missed homework assignment takes you down a grade. In the world, a missed deadline takes you down a client.

No, those standard desk jobs aren’t going to work. Anything that requires consistency everyday is out. As is a job where I am required to interact with people predictably at preset times. What does this leave?

I need a career that allows three hyper-productive hours to support myself and a family for a week. Anyone know of any openings?

Didn’t think so.

So, if I have to seek some treatment, what can I do?

Treatment:
First off, I want to say that I have no idea how to treat Cyclothymia. Everything I have to say is based on a week or two of data, it’s hardly conclusive.

But, the past couple of weeks have been full of self-examination. I have done just enough research and experimentation to have something to say on the subject.

First: medication isn’t enough by itself. Pills can take the edge off of our emotions, but they will never be the final answer. Call me a hippy who had a naturopathic doctor for a mother, but it is my opinion that pills are made to suppress symptoms, not the illness itself.

I have been taking an antidepressant called Welbutrin since December. The first week I was on them was wonderful. I felt like a superhero. I lifted more weights than the athletes at the gym. I did my homework in minutes, then did everyone else’s. I bet speed feels the same way.

Then I crashed. Since then, the antidepressants have only seemed to make the mood-swings worse. I’ve been continuing to take them because I wanted to give them a chance, but my Psychiatrist and I agreed yesterday that we would phase them out pretty soon.

Just so you know: Anti-depressants are almost never prescribed for bipolar disorder or cyclothymia. They’re often reported to make manic episodes more frequent (and worse), and can knock someone with a mood disorder even farther off-balance. My doctor didn’t know I had Cyclothymia when he prescribed them. All he had to go on was my report of an extended depressive phase. “Why tell him about my highs?” I thought.

So yesterday, my Psychiatrist prescribed lithium carbonate. I took his little blue slip (I love these things for some reason) and gave it to the nice woman at Walgreens. In a half-hour, I came back and picked up a little bottle of pills. I took my first one yesterday as I was walking home.

Lithium carbonate is, from what I can gather, a sort of non-organic salt. Maybe if I had gone to high-school past freshman year I would know more about the stuff than the fact that it’s used in batteries. Whatever it is, it has been around for a long time. One of the things I that attracted me to it was it’s long lifespan. “Old-fashioned” has become the search phrase I use in Google when I want pie recipes that don’t include instant jello puddings. Old-fashioned means quality.

Last year a study in Japan showed reported that communities whose water contained large amounts of lithium had significantly less suicide rates, and psychiatrists have been using the stuff for over 100 years.

A tid-bit: apparently lithium used to be in the majority of sodas until around 1950. In fact, 7up is named after the number “daltons” (what the hell are those?) that make up lithium’s atomic mass.

So there’s always lithium. Jeremy Brett, a hero of mine who played Sherlock Holmes in the 1984 Granada television series took it after he was diagnosed as bipolar midway through taping a season of the show. Apparently it helped with his mood swings, but his liver was so weakened by it that he began to take on large amounts of water. He gained an incredible amount of weight as the Sherlock Holmes series went on. That scares me a little.

I can’t say much on the effects of these little pills, because I’ve just started taking them. If they don’t work, I’ll likely move on and try something else. The other common drugs used are anti-seizure medications.

What I really want to talk about, though, is therapeutic treatment. My Psychologist (different from my Psychiatrist) is excellent at what he does. He is holistic, and realizes that treating people isn’t just about listening to them whine, and giving them advice. He works to help me pry the right answers out of myself. And that works.

The most helpful thing he has worked with me on so far, is the acceptance of my states. What I mean by this, is the willingness to acknowledge and stop fighting the moods as they come and go, whatever they may be. As I mentioned earlier when talking about what chemical depression feels like, the default tendency is to try to invent reasons to justify your mood.

The trick is to change this pattern. The reward? The mood swing will last only as long as it needs to. If you let yourself get tangled, you’ll stay angry, depressed, whatever, for longer than you need to. For the past week, I’ve been focusing on remaining centered, recognizing the early warning signs, and changing my default responses to unexpected chemically-induced emotions.

And, of course, I’m still terrible at it. But I’ve already noticed a difference in the length of my swings.

Relationships:
Much of the time, I am reliant of Chanterelle to keep an eye on me and try to supervise my actions. The common script when we’re out:

Me: Hey, let’s try out that new Indian place!
Chanterelle: (Looking hungry, but retaining self-control) We don’t have any money. It’s too expensive.
Me: Oh come on, we’ll just do one less load of laundry. Don’t worry about that.
Chanterelle: Christian, no.

Thankfully, I respect her “no” enough to let it be the final word on the subject. If I didn’t, we’d be in trouble.

My closer friends who I see in person have started asking Chanterelle what sort of mood I’m in when we get together. Sometimes (like just the other day, when Samantha brought her cousin to meet us) I’m in a crappy, I-hate-you-and-everything mood. But they know that within as little as 5 minutes I could be talking like an auctioneer and dancing down the sidewalk.

The only one who does not respect my boundaries and leave me alone when necessary is our cat, Maya. She finds my worst moods convenient times to take a seat on my lap, and funny enough, she never gets mad at me for being such a jerk.

The future:
Who knows how this will all turn out. In the end, I think it’s better to know about a disorder like Cyclothymia, even if you don’t know quite what to do about it.

If you’re interested in learning more about bipolar disorder and Cyclothymia, the actor Stephen Fry (who played Oscar Wilde in the movie) created a documentary after receiving his own diagnosis. In the film, he goes to various friend’s houses (including Robbie Williams and the woman who played Princess Leah in Star Wars) and interviews them about their bipolar disorders. I have seen it, and really enjoyed it. It’s called: “The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive.”

Thanks for sticking with me through this post. It may be the longest post I’ve ever written. As I mentioned before, it is my hope that my words will serve as support and comfort for someone who might be trying to understand why and how this illness has slipped into their lives.

The most important thing to remember: accept your moods for what they are, and don’t get caught in the web.

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chanterelle March 25, 2010 at 5:38 pm

there were a few typos in this post but this one stood out the most “then did everyone else’s” to me any guess thats just cus I’m your girlfriend lol. Its a good post think it was helpful for you to write it all down and I’m glad you were able to. By the way Carrie Fisher is the name of Princess Leah and I told you to read her book about it : P I wish I could be as unbotherd as Maya some times. Love you

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Juno April 6, 2010 at 12:34 pm

You have just placed everything I found so hard to describe directly into perfect words. Good luck to you sir

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Karita April 8, 2010 at 12:57 am

Hi there. I came across your blog via a Google search for Cyclothymia. You’re right, there is very little written about Cyclothymia on the internet, so this is a great post. :)

I’m Cyclothymic too, BTW.

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Christian Holmes April 8, 2010 at 5:03 am

I’m so excited that people are finding my post and finding it helpful. As I mentioned, that was my goal. Hearing from you guys who have come across my blog with a search, that’s exciting.

Thanks for leaving your kind comments you guys, I will be posting updates as I experiment along this journey, and I usually have alot to say. So hopefully if you check back I’ll have more resources and ideas for dealing with Cyclothymia.

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Emily May 16, 2010 at 3:01 pm

Thanks for this post! I don’t think I have cyclothymia now since my mood seems much more stable than this. For me, chronic stress for months on end makes me feel trapped, depressed, and incredibly irritable, symptoms which disappear when the stress is relieved. I thought I might have cyclothymia, but I now think I’m just at the moody end of normal, emotionally. I’m hoping therapy will help me to feel more stable and in-control of my reactions.

Thanks again! Hope you’re feeling “normal” right now; if you aren’t, I hope you’re accepting of how you feel.

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Tricia Austin April 9, 2010 at 10:59 am

Hi! I have Cyclothymia…I’m a lot older than you, but just got proper diagnosis in last year. Very difficult ride to find the right medications. I hope your doing well. I’ve read that the younger you’re diagnosed the better.
Enjoy your blog.
Trish

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lisa April 14, 2010 at 9:32 pm

I have been recently diagnosed with this and found your blog comforting. Thanks for being honest.

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jackie April 26, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Thankyou for putting this information together…i have just been dignosed with Cyclothymia after many years of struggling and not knowing what was wrong with me….I am not alone….We are not alone…..

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Karen 'Edward Cullen' M May 11, 2010 at 2:01 pm

Oh my god, just came across this just by searching for this illness. I have been seeing a PsycDoc and CPN now for a few months and yet to be properly disgnosed, although they think it’s cyclothmia…. I have been prescribed Seroquel and they have just increased my dose to 400mg and also I have been prescribed something else but can’t remember what, still have to get that tomorrow as my appointment was only today. I always feel really frustrated after my appointments for some reason and feel I am going nowhere, I just want to be told, you’re fine and everything will be ok, but I know that wont happen…

I have been through a marriage breakup which was extremely hard, my ex played with my emotions a lot, there was a lot of putting down and then trying to bring me back up again… So glad to leave it all behind but it’s been tough. Now in a great relationship with someone who respects me and is standing by my side as I go through this turmoil of diagnosis and prescription drugs that make me so tired I can’t function or they simply aren’t working.

This blog is amazing, makes me feel like I am not alone… Whether I am diagnosed with Cyclothymia/BP1/2 whatever, I will be revisiting this site.

All the best you mate, I can relate to all your issues :) Take Care xxx

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Sean July 13, 2010 at 7:10 pm

Can I just ask: i and others have suspected me of cyclothymia for years and ive periodically sought help. The one thing that has always dicouraged me from diagnosing myself with it is that I always thought the mood swings had to be quite neat to get a diagnosis. Feel normal for a bit, feel manic ( for at least a week they say), crash, feel normal, get manic wheras with me it seems to be this constant up and down, but I get periods where either depression or hypomania are dominant. Is this cyclothymia or just artistic temperament?

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Rob July 19, 2010 at 8:29 pm

Good post. I was also diagnosed with cyclothymia a few years ago. I can tell you a little bit more from my experience; you can see if that helps you. Firstly, I went to a psychiatrist about it because I believed it was due to chemical imbalance issues and thought therefore that medicine could help. Ironically, when I was diagnosed the doctor then told me that there was no treatment for it, but he recommended psychotherapy anyway. I ignored that part because my intuition told me it wouldn’t help. (Others may disagree, but I only mention it for background–focusing on the chemical side of things here). So, even though he had told me that I told him that I had noticed that my previous habit of drinking 2 large cups of coffee, one on the way to work and another as soon as I got there was triggering an “up” cycle because like clockwork I could tell (and physically feel) the down cycle starting at a certain time each day. Before I realized this was a problem and before I even went to see him I had noticed this pattern in myself for 6 months prior. I told him that I think it is somehow related to what I experience, and he told me there was no known collaboration of coffee with this. But, since he had also just told me another property of cyclothymia is that one when experiences an up cycle that they were guaranteed to feel a subsequent and equally strong down. So, my theory was that if coffee was a trigger (not causing cyclothymia, but increasing and triggering the up cycle that possibly eliminating it would reduce (not eliminate) my down cycles, and especially the pattern I came to almost be able to predict. He told me he didn’t think it would matter, but since he and I were done anyway, and he gave me nothing else to work from, I experimented with it. I found that after stopping any coffee cold turkey for two weeks, that the pattern of predictible and extreme down I would have each afternoon, did dramatically stop to the point where it was manageable and I felt I could function well enough without having to go hide the second half of my work day. To try to prove some things, I temporarily went back onto coffee, same as before and it came back. Then I went off the coffee and the improvement returned. To check if this was just coffee or any caffeine; I switched to having a couple of coke’s each morning instead of the coffee and the coke didn’t seem to have any affect on me. Tried another period of coffee and the problem returned. So… I went off coffee permanently (switched to diet cokes so not to gain weight :-) ; but for a couple years the problem seemed to have really mellowed out (but it was not gone, as I understand it, it won’t just go away anyway; but I had taken away a significant trigger of up so the downs were not as severe, which also seemed to prove the thing he told me about the down would be equal intensity of the ups. So, my theory has been, try to remove or avoid chemical/artificial up stimulus to reduce effects of downs. Worked well for a while. A couple years after it seemed that wouldn’t control it anymore and I felt the symptoms coming back to the old intensity (but not same predictable patterns as before, more erratic). So, I went to my general medicine doctor, reviewed the notes he received from the psychiatrist a couple years back and asked him if he thought there was anything that could be done despite what the psychiatrist said and he had me try a relatively low dose of Zoloft (50 mg, 1 per day); he was also concerned about how the Zoloft could stimulate an up or prolong the ups, which could still therefore trigger an equally strong down; but thought we should try it and see. It worked (works) like a charm. My first reaction in the first few months was like it was cured completely. Eventually I realized it’s not really; still can get pushed hard up or down which will be followed by its polar opposite. But never has intense each way and I go longer periods between cycles. Not perfect but so much better than it was before that unless or until something changes, I feel like I am in a pretty good balance, very functional almost all the time as opposed to only half the time only on good days where it was when I started seeking help. So, since I saw your well thought out post on your experience I thought you or someone might get something useful out of mine. Good Luck everyone. -Rob

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drew July 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm

Thanks for this post man.. I’m trying to diagnose myself right now, and this is some potent content.

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cyclothymia July 23, 2010 at 9:42 am

Cyclothymia is not commonly known. Perhaps one reason is because symptoms are often not so severe that one will seek treatment.

Cyclothymics, like those diagnosed bipolar, alternate between depressive and manic phases. Actually, with cyclothymia true mania is not reached. The proper term to describe this phase is hypomanic.

During the depressive phase, cyclothymics experience low confidence, fatigue, negative thoughts and loss of interest in formerly enjoyable activities. During the hypomanic phase confidence returns in excess, though mood may be irritable, sleep difficulties may be present and there are reduced inhibitions.

It is possible that cyclothymia will progress into full bipolar disorder. This illness is usually diagnosed in the teenage or young adult years.

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kim August 29, 2010 at 8:23 pm

Sounds like me. last week I was depressed and tired and couldn’t get out of bed but right now I’m full of ideas and I’m getting a rush. I don’t like this feeling tho now that I know what it is. My hearts beating fast and I feel like I have to get things started right now.
I’m an art student and I love it when I feel the rush coming! I get my work done twice as fast as other students. only if it lasted longer than few days..! I thought it was just bad habit, not being able to concentrate and all.. but when I’m feeling down, I can’t force myself to do anything.

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Andy September 17, 2010 at 1:15 am

I am diagnosed with Cyclothymia as well. You describe the symptoms and your feelings so beautifully, I wish I had such eloquence.

I totally agree with the holistic approach you are taking in tackling this illness. I have been off medication for nearly 5 months as an agreed trial with my psychiatrist. I am trying to establish if I can maintain a degree of stability that is acceptable and that I can live with. It is not going too badly, a combination of Mindfullness, CBT and just accepting (as you describe) seems to be working.

Of course, Cyclothymia is a clever foe as you know! The mood swings creep up in disguise, they hide and jump out when you least expect them. All I can say is that I am hopeful.

Thank you again for this post. It has helped me remember what it is I am fighting and how far I have come in gaining some measure of control over my life.

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Luke October 7, 2010 at 3:09 pm

Thanks for your post, always interesting to hear someone’s perspective, so cheers. I have been diagnosed with Cyclothymia as well, and am on Seroquel. I don’t know if anyone else finds this, but after taking the pills, in the morning it makes me feel like I’m heaving a huge weight through dense fog. I’ve been on them for around 3-4 months and this happens 89% of the time when I wake up. Do you or anyone else know if this subsides after awhile, or if anyone has worked out a way of dealing with the foggy feeling, or is also annoyed by the groggy feelings? I think the pills have helped rein in the mania and depression on the whole, but then something happens, usually something irrelevant, and I get hyper/angry/down. But nothing like I was usually before the pills. I’m more or less on a plateau of indifference. Though having said that, I got extremely hyper two days ago over something on the news. Anyway, thanks again for your post. Like you, I have a long suffering…I mean patient, girlfriend.

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Ariane November 17, 2010 at 11:01 am

Hey guys,
I’m fun and crazy too. Have been for years. Never got a formal diagnosis, but one of my good friends is a psychiatrist and he said, unequivocally, “YES! CYCLOTHYMIA!” Now it’s kind of a running joke amongst my good friends; trying to figure out which personality has come out to play, Number 1: melancholy and apathetic, Number 2 let’s party after we re-paint the entire house, buy a book on How To Raise Chickens in Your Backyard, and signing up for NaNoMoWri.org where I’m supposed to write 50,000 words in 30 days, or if it’s Number 3: the mediator between the two.
Life is funny. Life is immensely irritating. Thank God I have a very stable husband who is an accountant and keeps us on a very strict budget. Before I met him, I was much more of a disaster: put a $2000 couch on lay-a-way, decided that I could remove a tattoo via branding iron, huge credit card debt, a brand new car I couldn’t afford because I kept quitting my jobs, then going back to school and taking out more student loans so I could pursue my “passion,” whatever that was at the time. Sleeping 12 hours a day in between such episodes, then waking up and calling in sick, because life is pointless, and if it’s pointless I might as well stay home, order sushi and watch a movie on the couch about people who actually think life is fab.
Yeah!
Thanks for the post. Crazies like us need to know there are more crazies like us out there.
Ariane

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Kaity December 5, 2011 at 8:09 am

Oh my god you are so much like me Ariane!!! It scares me!!
Perhaps read my last post its titled ‘Kaity’
I wanted to be like the people in the movies who life was fab so much so that I became an actress! Haha Iam very much crazy as well but I love us just the way we are!!!

Kaity!! :D

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Melissa November 28, 2010 at 8:29 pm

Thank you for putting yourself out there like this. I have a long time history of depression,but was just recently diagnosed as bipolar/cylothemia. Your post helped me understand this more than the dozens of web pages I’ve visited (and three books read) over the last week.

I have copied parts of your post to show to my therapist and say “yes, that’s how I am!” Right now, especially the “I need a career that allows three hyper-productive hours to support myself and a family for a week.” Some people will see that as lazy, but *I* know what you mean by it (and often I think we an accomplish more in those three hours than most can in 40…”

Thank you again from my heart.

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Liam December 17, 2010 at 2:45 pm

Great post, I have recently been diagosed with Cyclothymia and your post help me understand a few things about it :)

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brian December 21, 2010 at 9:55 am

Acceptance seems to the hardest part for me- i was finally diagnosed 3 yrs ago but looking back on my history for the past 20 yrs the patterns were there and the answers obvious when the right questions asked.
There is very little online rergards Cyclothymia so thanks for describing your feelings – i think it is very brave.

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Beccy January 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Hey, I have recently been diagnosed by my doctor which cyclothymia. This is a brilliant post, you couldn’t have put it into better words! I can deal with the mood swings but what i’m really struggling with is the lack of motivation which comes with them, i’m falling desperately behind in school and i can almost see my future fading away, has anyone got any tips as how to say motivated? i haven’t managed to do any work in about a month and i have exams in a couple of weeks, thanks.

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Glenn January 11, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Great post, Christian, thanks for writing it.

I don’t think I could have described what it’s like for me to experience being hypomanic and cyclothymic as well as you have – and you’re not me! I totally identified with the “What’s Cyclothymia Feel Like?” section.

I felt like you were writing about me again in the part about productivity – I couldn’t quite understand it myself why I’m not productive in hypomanic phases but you nailed it.

I haven’t received a formal diagnosis from my doctor, but he put me on Valpro (Sodium Valproate – first on 400mg/day and then 500mg/day) and after about a month on the higher dosage the difference is enormous.

I’m still building my confidence in my ability to get things done and seeking help via counselling/therapy, but I hope I’m on the road to dealing with this after just hoping things would be OK, for maybe 15 years now.

I wish you the best of luck, as well as everyone else out there struggling with the same type of condition.

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SP January 19, 2011 at 4:32 am

Thank you to Christian for the original post and to everyone else for their comments. I was diagnosed with Cyclothymia 4 years ago and 9 months ago I came off my medication. I’ve since been through the break up of my marriage and the resulting huge amount of upheaval in my life. I’ve been doing ok. More manic phases than depressed, it seemed. Until yesterday. It feels as though I’ve been on a holiday from dysthymia until yesterday. Now I’m feel exhausted: like I’ve been hit by a truck; incredibly alone and prone to spontaneous bouts of crying. I really hope it doesn’t last too long. I’m inspired by whoever said earlier (sorry concentration is shot to pieces) that its important to accept the moods and not fight them. That’s what I’m going to try very hard to do.

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jessy January 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm

Wow, thankyou. I have just been diagnosed with cyclothymia myself and although I don’t feel ready to talk about my own personal experiences just yet your post has helped me in a bigger way than you will ever know. before reading it I felt sure I was the only person in the world who felt this way but now I know i’m not on my own at all. your girlfriend is amazing too, my boyfriend of 4 years broke up with me because of my ‘mood swings and exaggerations’ so your lucky to have someone so special and understanding. thankyou ever so much for helping me see things just that little bit clearer. all the best. Jessy xx

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Cyndy February 21, 2011 at 7:54 pm

Thanks…a lot of insight, my boyfriend and I decided to stop seeing each based on all the things you describe. A very up and down relationship. After the break up he was diagnosed with cyclothymia. What does your girlfriend have to say about making things work with you…I would love to be able to work things out. But not sure how to be supportive.

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Cyndy February 21, 2011 at 7:56 pm

BTW…I am also from San Francisco…Thank you again, I felt some relief after reading your blog. The hooker post was fun to read.

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Josh March 8, 2011 at 9:50 am

Hi, this site is a great tool. I have been struggling with every symptom you described. Although I have not yet been officially diagnosed, my counseler thinks this I what I have. It made my tour in Afghanistan rocky and recently cost me my relationship. These things together threw me into a rapid cycling phase with more dysthymic episodes than hypomanic. You were able to word this article better than anything I have seen on the subject so far. I believe you should take your creative writing skills to the next level and develope a book about Cyclothymia. I beleive it would be great and help a lot of people. I do have one question though. I know medication is not the best way to treat, but I am curious to here some other people’s experiences regarding some of the medication out there (particularly lamotrigine and litheum) before I start with medication.

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Amy Barkham March 8, 2011 at 4:39 pm

I’m glad I found this blog. I myself am a writer, I don’t really think I have cyclothymia but I’ve presented the symptoms. My ex was a psychiatrist and he thought I had it. Any way, feel free to contact me directly for (mutual) support and if you’re interested in reading my article about it, go for it although it’s aimed at those who don’t know they have cyclothymia and those who don’t know about it:

http://amybarkham.com/2011/03/09/cyclothymia-a-writer%E2%80%99s-gift-or-curse/

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Samantha March 24, 2011 at 1:11 am

Hi, I Have Just Found Ur site Looking For Info On bipolar, then Came Across Cyclthymia. I Have Know for A few Yrs ther has Been Something Up With Myself. My Moods go Up And down, I can B Happy Gettin Out Of Bed, And By The time Am Finishened My Cuppa Am In A Bad Mood, And i Cant think Of The Reason y, So that Makes Me Even Worse, Cause Am Pissed Off that I Was Happy And it never Stayed For Long.
I Have in The Last 10 Yrs Been goin to My Dr About how I Feel, They Have Put Me On anti-Depresants In The Past And also Beta Blockers, But Due To The Fact I Have An Addictive Personality And Have had problems in the Past With Abusing Drugs Legal And Illegal i no Longer Can Get Tablets Prescribed To Me.
That has Been for 3yrs now. I still Have gone To See My Dr Sometimes just To Let Him Know Am Not Feelin Great, Am Feelin Low, i Cant Sleep, iWant To give up, the answer Is always the Same, ” We Cant Give u anything If thats What ur Lookin for”.
So Basically I Feel Like My Dr thinks I am Makin Up How i Feel Just To Get Some Kind Of Tablets off him..
I Seem To B goin On, the Problem Bein, I Have A Doctors App this Mornin to Explain to him What I think Is Wrong With Me, And I Am Findin it Hard To Want To Go, I Suffer From Panic Attacks And Ancientness Which I Receive no help For, i Just Have to Go thro the Motions, But I Have Taught Myself how to Deal With Myself When An Attack Is Comin On.
I Dont Want To hear The Same Words, As i always do, As i Know In Myself Ther Is Somethin Wrong, I’ve Knowin for a whle But Thot It Wld not Look Gd As I am Goin thro Family court With My Ex. But Now I Am Ready to go And Explain What And How I Feel, And What help I Can Receive, I Did Ask Ove 9 Months Ago For Cognitive Behaviour Theray And My Dr Told Me To Read A Book. That Is y I Really Feel Very anxious About goin, and can Feel Myself Wantin To Back out Again, And I Cant.
Ur blog has Really helped Me And I Am From Sunny Scotland Over The Pond Just Thot I’d Let u’z Know.
I’ll Let u all Know how I get On.
Thanks For Listen And Even Writin This Has Helped. Thank you. Samantha

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Michaela July 17, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Hey Girl!
Think what is right with you! Also, you might want to try a good quality Fish Oil supplement, do some research on the web, the caps need to be with the right ratio of EPA & DHA. This has really helped me, a lifelong freak! And proud of it!
Don’t let the medical establishment run you down. You have the strength and power to be in control of your moods. Just know you’re not alone.
Okz

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Mr. Smith May 25, 2011 at 4:54 am

Well written, accurate and much-needed article. Well done.
Good luck with it all.

A fellow sufferer

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TERRI May 31, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Hey Christian, I have also been diagnosed. There is one natural way to reduce the “down” times, and that is through exercise. Heart pounding, walking straight up hill for an hour exercise. I am also on Lexapro for anxiety (when I get myself stuck in the web), and SAME for mood enhancement. I have had extended depression due to life events, and I take Elavil for those times, but only as long as I need it.
Good luck. Stay busy.

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Jen June 24, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Informative and entertaining. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank goodness I finally know what my problem is!

Hope you post more!

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Joe June 27, 2011 at 7:24 pm

Christian, I am researching about this condition on behalf of my best friend. I needed more information on how to deal with people who suffer from Cyclothymia rather than clinical therapeutic methods. Thank you for firstly having the courage to detail your behavioral patterns as I know opening up can be very difficult, and secondly for targeting some pointers that are rarely addressed. I am more interested in how your partner deals with it (other than correcting grammar and spelling!). Keep your comments and thoughts coming as I am sure the response from your peers will be more beneficial than anything else.

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Suzanne July 12, 2011 at 4:33 am

I just stumbled across this post, I know you wrote it a good while ago but it was such a relief to know there are other people who can relate! I’ve been struggling with Cyclothymia and an anxiety disorder since I was a teenager. I’ve been on every kind of medicine you can imagine, had so many talking therapies. In the end I sold all my stuff (hypomanic idea) and am now backpacking round the world, I’ve been traveling for a year now, meds free for 4 months and amazingly am still in one piece. You’re spot on about learning to accept the swings, it takes a lot of mental energy on my part to stop grasping at random reasons to explain my feelings! Anyway, good luck and thanks for sharing your experiences of the disorder, it really does help other people.

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Maggie July 12, 2011 at 9:56 pm

This information is really helpful. And the post is very articulate-thanks! My comment/question is rather general- I’m wondering if someone I care about is suffering from cyclothymia. He has mood swings which include (mainly) hypomania and extreme irritation, lack of focus/concentration when driving, and probably a few others. I haven’t noticed ‘depression’ in way it is often described (sadness, suicidal thoughts, worthlessness). What I have noticed is that almost all of our fights seem to come from nowhere and do not seem based on anything that has really happened. Feedback and/or advice is much appreciated as I’m not sure how to proceed at this point.

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Kaity December 5, 2011 at 7:48 am

Hi Maggie

Maybe read my post? Its the last post titled “Kaity” it might help your situation! Although your friend is very lucky have a friend be so caring as to research his condition and personality!

Your friend sounds very similar to me!
Let me know if it helps!

Much love
Kaity!!

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Maggie July 13, 2011 at 1:30 pm

One more thing-does anyone have any thoughts on conflict resolution w/ someone who has this?

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Michaela July 17, 2011 at 8:52 pm

Hi Christian

I just found this lovely blog. I’m cyclothymic too, discovered and diagnosed myself after 40 years (still a teenager though really!), and reading Stephen Fry mentioning it. It all clicked for me, and I started to do some real looking into it.
I’ve always been “intense”, full on, sensitive, acutely aware, over the top, charismatic, enigmatic, crazy!!! It’s a blessing, especially when you realise that. Now, I am seeing all the patterns in my life as a beautiful tapestry, which I can create as I wish for the future. I will not take psych drugs, I will not see a Psychiatrist, I will not see a Psychologist. What I will do, is work at my art (writing, photography, making stuff, restoring my home, life) and I will love, I will love, I will love and learn.
My dad is a GP, and he is on my side. He hadn’t even heard of CT! Now he’s started to learn about it, and it feels good to know that something like this is bringing us closer together!
I just ordered the CT Workbook from Amazon, it hasn’t arrived yet, but I’m sort of excited! It’s like a light has been thrown on in my soul since I worked out what is really right with me!! That’s how I look at it. I’m typing fast now!!
Also, I’ve been taking 2 x 1000mg Omega 3 Fish oil caps + a good multivitamin every night with my dinner. I’ve stopped drinking alcohol and don’t miss it, and I’ve stopped smoking copious amounts of weed, which I also don’t miss, but I did absolutely LOVE the weed. I grew up in Australia’s version of Holland/ Amsterdam, South Australia, so it was kind of normal to smoke a lot. I’ve stopped altogether and I don’t miss it at all. The fish oil has been the best though.
Look, I haven’t read the whole post yet, but I will later, I just wanted to write and say, it’s great. Embrace your cyclothymia. Use it as fuel, and never stop feeling what you feel, even if sometimes it’s just kind of flat.
We are blessed with insight and energy that most simply can not imagine. Learn to direct it. Follow your inner most vision and dreams. Do the work, and have faith in the universe, because it is there for you.
I think Jesus may have been Cyclo!! Now, ain’t that the shit!
Thanks for your lovely blog Christian.
Michaela;)

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Kaity December 5, 2011 at 7:15 am

This is the best reply ever hahahahaha so much love to you Michaela!! :D
From a fellow Cyclothymia personlaity :D

Kaity!

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Cyclothymic Goddess July 29, 2011 at 6:50 am

I can’t tell you how happy I was to find your blog and after reading this post I’m hooked. I literally just started blogging about my cyclothymia today and have been scouring the blogosphere for others like me (well, as “like me” as can be). I can’t wait to read more.

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Jenny Wren August 1, 2011 at 12:24 pm

I was diagnosed 11 months ago and have been taking Depakote (Semisodium Valproate) every day since. Life is so much better for me. ,Much more stable, better for family and relationships. I really must advise anyone reading this that you can’t self diagnose, go to the doctor, I wish I had years ago. Good luck in life Christian.

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Mel August 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm

Oh wow, after years of being up and down, not being able to keep a relationship through moodswings and one unfortunately failed suicide attempt, and constantly still wanting to expire but able to talk myself out of it due to the concern for my grown up children I finally came across this site. Both my father and brother are bipolar but I refused to believe I had a problem as my mood swings are not as bad as theirs, my brother got extremely violent with people including family yet he is such a clever person, he is now on 1000mg of lithium a day and coping after being sectioned 3 times.
My problems dont seem as bad apart from suicidal thoughts, more so now my kids are 18+, after my failed attempt I was sort of relieved that maybe there is help out there for the way I feel, I spoke to a councillor at the hospital and they said if I agreed to a follow up they would not keep me in, great…. or so I though. Within a fortnight I was feeling really low again so I went to my doctors to see what I could do, I didnt tell him what I had done as I realised he hadnt recieved any note from the hospital updating my records, he sent me away with anti-depressants. 2 years down the line I am desperate hense posting on here, I am really struggling these days to convince myself to keep going, my excuse before was my boys, I dont have that anymore. I love the highs, I feel great, the world is mine, but now I know it wont last and the highs dont outweigh the lows, I am posting on here in the hope of some ideas as I cant go back to my doctors as I will just lie and say all is well if he asks, bearing in mind he still has no record of my suicide attempt. I hope some of this makes sense as this is the first time I have tried to explain things.

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Nicola September 2, 2011 at 5:03 am

I have just read this post and had myself in fits of laughter! You have just describd me as though you have been watching my life for years. I was diagnosed a couple of years ago and doing my best to live with it. Right now im in the I cant sit still cos I have to do everything right now kind of mood. So im on the internet, painting a chair, watching tv, drawing, eating and tidying my house all at the same time, going from one to the other. Im trying to fit as much in as I can before I get the cant be bothered, no reason to do anything kind of mood. Im on medication and seeing a therapist too and getting support from frinds so im getting myself on the right track, at least I think I am. I just wanted to thanks for your insight into your life and for making me realise im not alone in this way of life. I hope you have found things have got a bit easier since you wrote this and all the best for the future.
Nicola

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cathy September 10, 2011 at 4:44 am

the more people talk about these things, the better it is. Spent years thinking I shouldn’t feel as I do. Well done for having the guts to write about your own experience. Cathy

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Julieta September 12, 2011 at 3:09 am

Thanks for being so honest. It was very helpful reading your page.

Hope everyday gets better.

Cheers,
Julieta

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MaryAnn October 1, 2011 at 11:31 am

Thanks for this. I was diagnosed by my psychiatrist with cyclothymia after a mis-diagnosis of bi-polar I disorder (not by him.) It was two years of treatment before he recognized my rapid-cycling and highs and lows weren’t super extreme. I recently had a major family blow up and it caused me to stop taking my meds, along with a jolly hypo-manic episode! I plan to work with my psychiatrist to find a better drug treatment and start talk therapy. I tried CBT…it was way too dry for me. After all I AM an emotional creature. I think everyone has to find their own way to deal with cyclothymia and embrace its positives/cope with its negatives. Good luck with your journey Christian.

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Confused November 1, 2011 at 7:25 am

I feel the same, I’ve been diagnosed with Acute Bipolar type II but mum and I both feel I am more rapid and not as Sevier with bipolar moods etc, I can survive off my meds and I was only originally on a low 800mg dosage of epilim. This makes so much sense after mood diary :) thanks I’ll go back to My GP and ask tl get reassesed :)

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Ella October 11, 2011 at 11:13 am

Hi thanks for being so honest and open about your condition. It is hard to find information about cyclothymia on the net and most people don’t really know what it is.
I was diagnosed with cyclothymia in 2002. I have written a blog post about my experiences , in the spirit of sharing information I hope you don’t mind me linking to it.
http://www.purplemum.com/2011/10/experiences-depression/

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Sally November 13, 2011 at 2:03 am

Hi, I came across your blog after doing a search on bi-polar disorder and discovered the term cyclothymic and so here I am.

My 15 year old daughter has been a nightmare tripping from over emotional cuddles and tears and dispair over her boring life to I hate you, buy me something, I want to kill you eisodes throughout the day and nearly everyday.

There is something very wrong considering she has a manic moment of distruction in the home and then trys to work out who was to blame other than herself.

If she does not go into breaking things her manic moments will be cleaning the house top to bottom and telling me I never do any work and that I am lazy getting your own daughter to clean your home for you.

The key fact there is never a trigger that I can see for her ups and downs but she is always making excuses for her ‘behaviour’.

She is impulsive and latches onto new projects and ideas and throws them aside as quickley as she picked them up.

She sometimes describes a feeling she is looking through a car windscreen and can only see what is coming and not what has passed.

I know that she realises she is not right. Always self diagnosing in what I describe as her nice phase.

So I do see a cycle..of mania, nice, depressive.

I think a mood diary will be good for me to keep at this stage.

I just know she is not a typical teenager.

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Laura November 16, 2011 at 5:17 am

You have helped immensely, especially with your descriptions of ‘you know when you’re hypomanic/dysthymic when…’ – thank you. You have described my moods for the last decade brilliantly.

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Katie December 5, 2011 at 6:46 am

Hi guys a warm hello to all of you- Firstly thank you all for posting here today is not the greatest day for me and I feel so much better after reading all of your posts,

I have also been diagnosed with Cyclothymia and ADHD- So please mind my grammar and spelling

I am an actress I am extremely creative as I write poetry and love to be behind the camera
My passion is film, I am writing to everyone because I believe Christian’s symptoms to be slightly different to my own and I felt the need to reach out and let everyone know that there are variations.
Although I am similar to Christian I am not quite as emotionally based but rather energy and motivation based.
I thought I would list my symptoms as I believe Cyclothymia really varies from person to person and I obviously also have ADHD as well so this changes a few elements. As Christian mentioned in his post he was very much on an up when writing his post and I must admit I am on quite a down as I am writing this but I am very comforted that there is other people out there with my condition-
As I have even had medical professionals give me blank looks when I speak of my condition and it is not very comforting. I also must say I don’t drink alcohol before I start my signs and symptoms story.
-This is an over view of how Cyclothymia affects my life as a 24 year old woman.
I hope you can feel comfort that there are other people out there struggling with the same condition. This is in no way meant to be a negative post so I hope you see it as me reaching out to others in hope that they can perhaps relate. This is quite hard for me to say but I am posting it in the hope of also letting people know who don’t suffer from Cyclothymia but have a child, best friend, girlfriend or boyfriend some further incite on our condition.
As I have had a lot of people in the past not understand the cycles I go through or believe I even had something worth diagnosing. Here goes

-I have been fired from pretty much every job I have had -As I am extremely charming when up and I find getting a job is very easy but keeping it is exceptionally hard
-I get a very tense neck ache’s that feel like they can’t be relived
-I CONSTANTLY SUFFER INSOMNIA!!!! Every night and at the worst times I can stay awake for 3 days straight and generally I fall asleep at 4am
-Inability to drive due to the (Down sleepy feeling and lack of concentration)
-I have a cloudy or foggy mind all the time- (It feels like I am very hung over everyday)
-I need coffee and if there is none in the house I fall apart as it’s the only thing that gives me a slight up and relives the foggy and badly hung over feeling (Although I know it’s the worst thing for our condition I am as most as you may be desperate to get rid of the foggy down feeling)
-I have massive problems with keeping a job and getting along with people who have authority over me
-I never want to go to bed and fight it every night most night
-I am light sensitive to the point where I sleep with an eye sleeping patch on and I am in physical pain in the mornings and I can’t even speak without a coffee
-The light is very painful on my eyes and sometimes sound can be too much
-When I am down I never want to get out of bed and can sleep for a min of 12 hours at a time and getting out of bed is very very painful
-I am always late for work sometimes by 2 hours
-I blame pretty much everyone else for my lack of motivation or unreliability or lateness
-I hate to work out due to my lack of any form of energy (Although all I want to do and all I talk about is getting fit and once I am at the gym I really enjoy my self- But usually someone has to take me there and motivate me all the way)
- SO Messy or unorganised bedroom and paper work- Although my house is very clean my room and paper work mostly- BILLS and PAYING BILLS is never on time due to my lack of organisation and I am almost oblivious to days/time and I am often petrified of speaking to land lords or people I owe money or could owe money to- Because I know how terrible I am! So I have to be super organised because if I hide….things only get worse
-Very poor spelling skills- As I have spell checked this on word but I am sure you will find many mistakes right here in this post
-Did I mention COFFEE? Again I must stress my need for my morning “up” or the day is very upsetting as I have a splitting head ache
-I have been disruptive in every class to every class mate over my whole education I was dismissed from one girls school as all I wanted to do was act up and distract students and have “fun”
-In school from primary to high school to uni I was the same disruptive student who constantly needed to be the class clown and acted up when I didn’t get any attention
- Always feeling the need to be loved or in love (usually by the wrong people who feed off my positive energy until I am again down and then used and left again
-I lost my school bag and my books and lunch box every day for as long as I remember to the point where it would be at school still at 4.30pm….and I would still be still looking for where I put my books down….hours after all the other students had gone home
-I could never keep up with the other students homework and assignments
-I could not handle 6 different classes but I excelled in two- Being drama and art…of course
-In uni I was treated like a high schooler and I was put on probation for again all of what I am describing – And as you know everyone loves a class clown except the class clown when they are sitting outside of class (Sent by the teacher) treated like a naughty child embarrassed and depressed
-Of course I am adored by my friends and I have more friends then I know what to do with but I also do have a few people who cannot stand me- I believe I am loved like crazy by some people and others cannot handle me but generally I am charming enough to win over those who dislike me in time as I am overly positive when on a high and will make massive efforts with every single person I meet especially those who disapprove of me or dislike me
-I am highly sociable and I am very well known as I make myself well known to everyone with my happy go lucky and personable personality
-I go through periods of months where I am such high energy that even thinking about it right now exhausts me and I can understand how some people find me iterating
-I talk more than anyone I have ever met- but also love to listen
-I talk very quickly when I am on an up
-And find myself very quiet when on a down
-I want to meet people every day and make new friends every day when I am on an up
-I am exceptionally cheerful and overly positive when I am on an up that can last from anywhere from 2-3 months at a time
-When on a down my friends call me “Sleeping Beauty” because of my curly blonde locks and my obvious heavy coma like sleep
-People can’t even wake me by calling and usually have to come and knock on my bedroom window to wake me
-I sleep through and have trouble hearing most ALARM CLOCKS due to my heavy sleep- Great for keeping a job….I know….
-When on a down my passion for acting is almost an a zero
-When I am up my passion for acting is the biggest thing in my world and all I want to do is achieve and no one can stop me!
-My lack of confidence is hidden with massive displays of ego and over confidence
-I am pretty much afraid of showing feelings- Unless on stage
-My lack of keeping any sort of routine- including taking medications and pills goes out the window unless someone stands there and reminds me
-Terrible memory- That is very annoying for my acting and remembering lines
-When I am up its like sunshine, rainbows, picnics and lollipops and when I am down I am afraid it’s a dark room and way too much sleep- Social withdrawal is very evident during the day and keeping a job is beyond hard
-Before I was diagnosed my Step father and mother where anything but supportive- They called my lazy and tried to put me on every drug under the sun to get me to go to bed on time they had me on ‘Temazepam’ (Sleeping pill) that had no affect on me what’s so ever and was very dangerous to leave the bottle in my hands- Lucky for me I have not got an addictive personality and can hardly remember to take a pill
-Not to mention being also diagnosed ‘Lithium’ that my stepdad would always yell at me for not taking! (But I think its just to dangerous for me and I hated the idea of losing my personality and my friends just would not let me take it as they adore me just the way I am and I agree with them!
-Massive fights within my family as I would be sleeping all day- with my feeling of helplessness as they would remind me of how energetic I am and how this is all just laziness coming on
-Feeling like a change in address or job or city could fix everything- But it only makes matters worse trust me
-Not telling work environments about my illness and then when they eventually find out- As they usually do after my constant lateness I hit a low because of the embarrassment and shame of failing myself and family as I will have to again lean on them for support
-Then I was described ‘Dexamphetamine’ that worked an absolute treat for about 5 months it kept me from swapping around numbers and orders at my work at a waitress at a very busy restaurant and kept me from panicking when I was put in situations involving adding and using maths- It made me feel like a normal person for the first time in my life- I was getting to work on time, taking orders perfectly, adding and doing mathematical equations. For about 5 months and then I again crashed and I was a wreck paler than ever and sleepier than ever as for being a complete insomniac again
-Lack of patience for people being in my space when I am down and loving people around me constantly when I am up!
-A feeling that no one can really reach me emotionally or meet my complexities
-Feeling deeply alone at times and often irrational and a general feeling of helplessness when down
-When up an overwhelming feeling of loving everyone and sharing positivity and kindness as well as being hyper energetic and being overly generous
-ALWAYS SPENDING MONEY I DON THAVE like it burns a hole in my pocket as well as over generosity with money
-DID I mention CHEERFUL and POSITIVE and LOVING when up?? Well its no understatement

Anyway guys I hope this helps you all figure out your path and help you clearly see any signs that you may be experiencing that we may have in common or maybe that your friend, boyfriend, girlfriend, mother, father, brother, sister, best firend, son, daughter ( Or Step child for that matter) may be experiencing.

-A personal thank you to my step mother Kathy for all her support, love and kindness in my ultimate times of need and just generally for being the shining star in my life

It is almost impossible to notice to some medical professionals and it’s often confused with the following conditions its best to go straight to your local Psychiatrist (I know it’s expensive but it’s so worth it)
Glandular problems like over active thyroid or under active thyroid
Chronic fatigue syndrome
Sleep Apnea

(I was tested for alot! But go straight to a great Psychiatrist)

As we are all in our own way actors and able to act that we are symptom free so the best treatment is being 100% honest when you go in and see your Psychiatrist
Love you all loads
Thanks so much for reading
Kaity X

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Stephanie December 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Hi,

I have recently been diagnosed with cycothymia. Im 24 years old and live in the uk.
the hardest thing for me is getting people around me to understand. my boyfriend luckily is so supportive and he was the reason i saught help after many failed relationships i knew i didnt want to let this one go. my friends an family are finding it extremely hard to deal with and it (when im down) really fustrates me. i get “stop been silly cheer up”, “theres nothing wrong with u your just a moody cow”, “stop taking things to heart” then i get the stop sending your money, do u have to be so loud, all u care about is urself etc etc.
i just hope that they will come across this blog maybe it will help them understand.
you have inspired me to maybe start my own blog, the more cycothyhmic people do i think the more we can help each other.
my current mood is bad, i have been laid in bed 24 hours, i hate everyone an everything at the minute. the worst thing is i start to feel sorry for myself and then everythin g just spirals out of control.
its so comferting to know that im not alone in this, that there are other people suffering from this disorder.

xx stephanie xx

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Kaity January 5, 2012 at 8:50 pm

We are all here for you Steph!

Iam going through the same thing at the moment but all you need is your own place. Move out from your family and live with maybe your partner or a supportive housemate, that was my only option. Are you working at the moment? If you are get the support you need to find your own space.

Kaity :)

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Stephanie January 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm

Hi,

Yearh I’m working I’m in the armed forces. I’m saving money to buy a place with my partner, just a long process. My partner is in the Merchant navy and he’s been away since I have been going to the doctors I find it really hard. Whenever I try to talk to my family they just dont understand at all . I think it’s that stigma of Mental health. I still havent a 100% diagnosis I’m on sertraline 100mg doesn’t feel like its doing much difference to my moods. I recently come out of a massive down period I’m now in a “normal” phase. I still having major sleep issues tho :-(
I just wish someone had a magic wand with all the answers. I feel like I have nobody to turn too. I find myself becoming so lost in my own thoughts I kind of lose touch with reality. I just hope all the fuzziness becomes clear soon. I know that by telling the psychiatrist and the doctor and my counsillor everything that that will help with the diagnosis but sometimes I just can’t concentrate on what they are saying and other times like on Monday just gone I sat and cried I didn’t want to speak I wanted to go get back in bed turn off my phone and hide from the world !! Still holding out for that magic wand !!

Lots of love xxxx

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Lucy December 26, 2011 at 9:24 am

It seems so bizarre that while there are so many of us suffering with this out there that there is STILL so little information.
Thank you for posting this. It is so refreshingly honest and has really opened my eyes.
Like a lot of people have already said it feels so good to know that we’re not alone.

Whether up or down we’re still us and all we need is a bit of understanding and TLC and we’ll all get there :-)
Thank you again for your insight- good luck and take care!

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Lynne January 18, 2012 at 3:01 am

I was diagnosed with Cyclothymia 6 years ago after a “mini breakdown” following years of attempting to cope with erratic mood shifts. I was sent to a psychiatrist who wanted me to go on Lithium but I refused. Lithium has a tendency of dulling emotions and I didn’t want to live life as a foggy version of myself. As a result of refusing medication I was sent to a psychologist who set me on the CBT path. I saw her for 6 weeks but spent most of the sessions thinking I could do a better job than she could – partly because I have a psychology degree, mostly because Cyclothymia has a way of making me feel I’m awesome when I’m on an up phase!

I decided to change my lifestyle dramatically, try to make it calmer and avoid any stimulants, alcohol, excess sugar or drugs. I have managed to live with it without too much bother for these last few years but have noticed recently problems starting to creep back.

I started searching the net for info as I’m now on a severe down phase with feelings of major inadequacy, lack of interest in my life and fleeting suicidal thoughts. I’m struggling to motivate myself after a very high loved up period just before Christmas. I feel like an old friend has returned because I know how productive I get when I’m on an up phase. The danger is the both spectrums are starting to get more extreme and lasting longer.. Writing about it helps though.

What has most interested me in these comments is the list of symptoms people get so here are a few examples of mine – past and present:

Up phase:
- Purchased several thousand pounds worth of ‘stuff’ ranging from musical instruments, courses, art materials, and the obligatory ‘how to’ manuals to cooking utensils and fancy ingredients. Always things linked to creating something that I was convinced I could do easily. Ended up selling most of the things at a fraction of the price and ended up in debt. Still paying for them 6 years later.
- Applied for several jobs, just for fun, most of them totally out of my ability and qualification range just to prove how awesome I was. Exaggerated wildly on application forms and got interviews in lots of them.
- Threw out entire contents of food in kitchen to ‘start again’ and bought loads of food considered healthy to start fresh and lose weight.
- Threw out most of my clothes and replaced with clothes couple sizes smaller so I could ‘shrink into them’.
- Set up websites for countless projects
- Make constant ‘to do’ or ‘dream’ lists that never get done.

Most things focus on change and self improvement but become things I just feel depressed about when the manic phase ends.

Down phase:
- quit jobs
- cut friends out of my life blaming them for making my moods negative
- Stare into space, a lot
- Sleep,a lot
- Eat junk food, eating patterns get erratic – no meals just things that I think will make me feel momentarily better
- ignore phone calls
- have to drag myself out of bed, to work, to do anything
- ignore house work
- just want to be left alone
- start to read self help books and articles desperate for inspiration but lose interest after a page or few words.
- make plans to completely change life as I think it will stop the depression (it won’t).

There is a lot more literature available now compared to 6 years ago and it’s a relief to see that others are experiencing these things – that sounds awful as I wouldn’t inflict the bad side on anyone but its a reassurance that I am not insane or making things up.

The more we understand Cyclothymia, the more we can control its affect on our lives.
Stay sane :o )

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Monica January 25, 2012 at 2:42 am

Hello.

Thanks for this post. Im going through a hard moment as I think someone I love very much is suffering from this disorder. Your post helped alot. Keep posting please. People who are together with other people who suffer this disorder are even clueless and suffering without understanding. Your posts like describing your feelings, etc can help very much. Again thanks.

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Quentin January 25, 2012 at 5:44 pm

David,

I am an African American male 38 years old who finally admits that I have cyclothymia. INCREDIBLE! My father was full manic depressive bi-polar TO THE CORE and died at 49 years old.

I have been trying for years to break the chain of mental illness trying to fight through all the emotions and fears by myself. Finally, I am admitting that I have been affected by a disorder in a way that has impacted every corner of my life. I am proud to say that over the years I have been successsful in my career choosing a field that I adore. The field has engrossed my interest and channeled my obsession to the point of completing a Masters Degree in the field. It’s exciting to know that there are others in the world who share my same emotional state. However, its scarry to know how close to crazy I really am.

Thank you for your candor. Enjoy your wonderful girlfriend.

Quentin

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SJ January 30, 2012 at 8:15 am

Thks this looks familiar though i don’t want to diagnose myself but yeah people usually don’t understand. I get accused of violently swinging btwn moods and my family just finds it confusing. I got bored and literally stopped doing my paper in the middle of an exam, I can’t explain it but I virtually cld NOT see the point of picking up my pen

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Rachel February 29, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Hi Christian,

Your post was great, but confused me a bit. I feel what you feel, but not as strongly. I never feel suicidal, but I feel worthless, incapable, unnecessary, and really down, where everything is too much effort for me to deal with. Similarly I never feel so high that I feel like I could do anything, I just feel inspired, productive, capable, purposeful and alert. These mood swings come usually untriggered, and I have never been able to understand myself. Like with you, though, I find that both moods leave me unable to work, as there are either better things to be doing, or I can’t muster enough energy and effort to do anything.
On top of this I get some moments where I lose control of myself and everything becomes too much, sometimes I cry, sometimes I scream, sometimes I throw things, or take it out on my boyfriend. He calls those moments my ‘freak outs’. I hate them, they’re ruining my life little by little.
I self-diagnosed myself as cyclothymic but on reading this, am not so sure.
I want to know where the line is between depression and normal.

Thanks
Rachel

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Joel garland March 15, 2012 at 6:17 am

Good article. Been diagnosed bipolar since i was 17. My cycles come quick and often. Not lasting more than a week sometimes less or more. With normal time inbetween

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AG March 18, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Thanks for the article, interesting to see other people’s experiences. Self-diagnosed and a year later ended up with the same official diagnosis…currently taking Lamictal, wondering what the actual effects are vs. what’s just changed from therapy.

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Dr. Bunch April 20, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Wow, nice helpful blog. Dr. Bunch

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Lisa May 2, 2012 at 6:08 pm

Hi Christian,

I found this blog post of yours a few months back. It has helped me immensely, in many ways.

I to suffer this condition, have done for years. My journey of mental health has been a struggle. Not only have I had to deal with my Cyclothymia, but I’ve also survived through a psychotic episode a few years back as well. I’ve been in and out of hospitals and mental health units, seen a number of doctors, been on a number of different medications etc.

This post of yours and all it’s comments, helped me to start to understand the fact that “I’m not alone”. I’d never really researched online regarding my condition until a few months back when I found this post of yours. It gave me hope =)

Also, being that you posted this publicly and that your commenters have posted their pieces publicly, it has helped me to open up that little bit that I needed myself. I’m slowly pulling the “face” down that used to say “I’m fine” when really, I was far from it. I can now say “I’m not doing so well today” if that’s the case…

Also, a bit more on the “opening up” factor – You, and a friend of mine, have inspired me to create my own blog solely documenting my journey of my mental health. It is locked to the general public but I have a number of people that have access to it.

Thank you, so much, for this post of yours!
- Lisa

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anilchauism May 5, 2012 at 3:08 am

Good piece! I also suffer from cyclothymia. I want deliverance from it, but can’t seem to get it. It baffles me. How can mood fluctuate like this on its own? Sometimes there is a trigger, but sometimes there is not even a trigger. The only regular feature of my mood cycle is that I have about 2 weeks of “good” mood phase followed by about span of 2 weeks of “zombie” mood phase. I do not take any medicines. I dont trust doctors for this. I tried them for many years and then stopped. Moreover, all the other people I know who are taking meds seem to be doing even worse than me.

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