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		<title>By: klack</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>klack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idea has always intrigued me. I believe this can be done on a permanent basis without becoming someone that most would consider &quot;homeless&quot;. 
If you join a gym, you can use their facilities to shower and shave and get a workout too! I have a life membership to 24 hour fitness in the States, which gives me access any time of the day or night and they seem to be located everywhere. So travel as you wish. I did lay out just over $500 for the lifetime membership, (you can make payments on this)  but now my payment/renewal is only $24 a year. That&#039;s right a year! Pretty cheap for the facilities I can access... for life!
Need to stay connected? Use your laptop (or their computer for free) at all public libraries. We have an obvious homeless gentleman who stays all day reading or listening to music and sometimes uses the computer. It is a safe place for him to be and expand his education. (BTW- this man has plenty of money, but chooses this lifestyle because it fits his personality.)
And  I assume you are not planning on checking out of life entirely, so just use a friends address for any type of things you may have to have an address for, like a job application or bank account statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea has always intrigued me. I believe this can be done on a permanent basis without becoming someone that most would consider &#8220;homeless&#8221;.<br />
If you join a gym, you can use their facilities to shower and shave and get a workout too! I have a life membership to 24 hour fitness in the States, which gives me access any time of the day or night and they seem to be located everywhere. So travel as you wish. I did lay out just over $500 for the lifetime membership, (you can make payments on this)  but now my payment/renewal is only $24 a year. That&#8217;s right a year! Pretty cheap for the facilities I can access&#8230; for life!<br />
Need to stay connected? Use your laptop (or their computer for free) at all public libraries. We have an obvious homeless gentleman who stays all day reading or listening to music and sometimes uses the computer. It is a safe place for him to be and expand his education. (BTW- this man has plenty of money, but chooses this lifestyle because it fits his personality.)<br />
And  I assume you are not planning on checking out of life entirely, so just use a friends address for any type of things you may have to have an address for, like a job application or bank account statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Supply Lists &#124; Barter Around The World</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Supply Lists &#124; Barter Around The World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a sleeping bag. This makes staying pretty much anywhere possible. I could even go about doing some stealth camping, but I probably [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben M</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In repsonse to: &quot;Btw…23 pounds sounds really pricey. No way you could camp nearby the site and just be “stealthy”?&quot;

...yeah, would have loved it, but the Mrs was with me!  I should be grateful enough that she comes camping with me at all I guess, but I&#039;ve suggested wild camping in Scotland next summer and she&#039;s telling me there are hundreds of murderers lurking around the hills!  This paranoid state that we live in amazes me!

We have stayed in huts, the streets and other random locations whilst traveling but wasn&#039;t usually because we wanted too!

And if you&#039;re looking for a tent, checkout the ultralights!  OK, there not quite as light as a bivi, but you can get them now for around 1kg, and they come with space to move your elbows and everything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In repsonse to: &#8220;Btw…23 pounds sounds really pricey. No way you could camp nearby the site and just be “stealthy”?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;yeah, would have loved it, but the Mrs was with me!  I should be grateful enough that she comes camping with me at all I guess, but I&#8217;ve suggested wild camping in Scotland next summer and she&#8217;s telling me there are hundreds of murderers lurking around the hills!  This paranoid state that we live in amazes me!</p>
<p>We have stayed in huts, the streets and other random locations whilst traveling but wasn&#8217;t usually because we wanted too!</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re looking for a tent, checkout the ultralights!  OK, there not quite as light as a bivi, but you can get them now for around 1kg, and they come with space to move your elbows and everything!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What sleeping bag did you get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What sleeping bag did you get?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D.</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stealthed in Munich once.  We drove down for Oktoberfest, three guys in a Ford Ka, and parked near a U-bahn station in the suburbs.  After we made it back, I realized I couldn&#039;t sleep folded up, so I took my poncho liner and crawled into some bushes near a footpath.  I woke to bright sunlight, a raging hangover, and a grey-haired hausfrau walking her poodle!

Good times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stealthed in Munich once.  We drove down for Oktoberfest, three guys in a Ford Ka, and parked near a U-bahn station in the suburbs.  After we made it back, I realized I couldn&#8217;t sleep folded up, so I took my poncho liner and crawled into some bushes near a footpath.  I woke to bright sunlight, a raging hangover, and a grey-haired hausfrau walking her poodle!</p>
<p>Good times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of with fils47.  How do you shower and stay clean, etc.?  Other than that and the fact that it might be dangerous if the wrong person(s) come upon you and steal your wallet and/or your passport, I think it&#039;s an interesting way to save money.  Wouldn&#039;t be for me, of course, as I like my comfort and convenience way more than having to pitch a tent after dark and pull out before light allows.  I&#039;d want to pay for a campground site where I&#039;d be more secure (safe) and would have shower facilities, etc. available.  Plus how does one access the Internet to get his/her work done?  Anyway, I give you A+ for innovative.  REALLY ENJOYED this post and the pics that went with it.  Thanks..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of with fils47.  How do you shower and stay clean, etc.?  Other than that and the fact that it might be dangerous if the wrong person(s) come upon you and steal your wallet and/or your passport, I think it&#8217;s an interesting way to save money.  Wouldn&#8217;t be for me, of course, as I like my comfort and convenience way more than having to pitch a tent after dark and pull out before light allows.  I&#8217;d want to pay for a campground site where I&#8217;d be more secure (safe) and would have shower facilities, etc. available.  Plus how does one access the Internet to get his/her work done?  Anyway, I give you A+ for innovative.  REALLY ENJOYED this post and the pics that went with it.  Thanks&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: fils47</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>fils47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice one fella, enjoyed reading your exploits...... i&#039;ve had to do a lot of wild camping on my travels. the only downside i could tell is hygiene, i know teenagers don&#039;t like to wash-sorry-i&#039;m not having a dig,  but you have to put this at the top of your &quot;to do list&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice one fella, enjoyed reading your exploits&#8230;&#8230; i&#8217;ve had to do a lot of wild camping on my travels. the only downside i could tell is hygiene, i know teenagers don&#8217;t like to wash-sorry-i&#8217;m not having a dig,  but you have to put this at the top of your &#8220;to do list&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bleicke</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Bleicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,

Great post! I also love the idea of wild camping. I find it intriguing how anyone feels justified to forbid a person to just lie down on public ground and sleep. How is that not natural? This is why I don&#039;t like the term &quot;stealth&quot;, I think you shouldn&#039;t be hiding. This is where you&#039;re sleeping! You&#039;re not a criminal or anything.

Please continue to write about your experience with the bivy, as I&#039;ve been interested in this for a while but have found virtually no first hand reviews. It would also be nice if you made a video.

Can you use your laptop inside the bivy? Is it roomy enough? Tell us everything!

Bleicke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>Great post! I also love the idea of wild camping. I find it intriguing how anyone feels justified to forbid a person to just lie down on public ground and sleep. How is that not natural? This is why I don&#8217;t like the term &#8220;stealth&#8221;, I think you shouldn&#8217;t be hiding. This is where you&#8217;re sleeping! You&#8217;re not a criminal or anything.</p>
<p>Please continue to write about your experience with the bivy, as I&#8217;ve been interested in this for a while but have found virtually no first hand reviews. It would also be nice if you made a video.</p>
<p>Can you use your laptop inside the bivy? Is it roomy enough? Tell us everything!</p>
<p>Bleicke</p>
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		<title>By: The Digital Backpacker</title>
		<link>http://christiandavidholmes.com/blog/2008/09/17/stealth-camping-the-first-night/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>The Digital Backpacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick - I know what you mean. My fiance read the book series &quot;Pretties&quot; and in it runaways are caught by using heat-sensors and the like. That thought freaks me out too.

But I have a feeling there will be ways around that also. Much like the cold bath Tom Cruise took in &quot;Minority Report&quot; (that was Tom Cruise, wasn&#039;t it?) to prevent heat from escaping.

Hmm...ya I know what you mean.

Well for now at least it is a great way to be in touch with nature while saving a BUNCH of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick &#8211; I know what you mean. My fiance read the book series &#8220;Pretties&#8221; and in it runaways are caught by using heat-sensors and the like. That thought freaks me out too.</p>
<p>But I have a feeling there will be ways around that also. Much like the cold bath Tom Cruise took in &#8220;Minority Report&#8221; (that was Tom Cruise, wasn&#8217;t it?) to prevent heat from escaping.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;ya I know what you mean.</p>
<p>Well for now at least it is a great way to be in touch with nature while saving a BUNCH of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked how you wrote this in a totally justifiable way, despite &quot;stealth&quot; camping probably being against local laws in most places around the world.

It&#039;s weird how similar we are at this point. A few weeks ago, I bought a Big Agnes bivy sack (bright orange and virtually identical to yours) and I&#039;ve been doing some outside camping as well. A few months ago when I left home for a few days, I slept in semi-public places and was never stopped. One night I slept about 12 feet downhill of a road, and nobody stopped me. My only worry is that technology will allow people to catch &quot;intruders&quot; with less manpower--and there will be crackdowns on stealth camping. But that seems a few years away at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked how you wrote this in a totally justifiable way, despite &#8220;stealth&#8221; camping probably being against local laws in most places around the world.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s weird how similar we are at this point. A few weeks ago, I bought a Big Agnes bivy sack (bright orange and virtually identical to yours) and I&#8217;ve been doing some outside camping as well. A few months ago when I left home for a few days, I slept in semi-public places and was never stopped. One night I slept about 12 feet downhill of a road, and nobody stopped me. My only worry is that technology will allow people to catch &#8220;intruders&#8221; with less manpower&#8211;and there will be crackdowns on stealth camping. But that seems a few years away at least.</p>
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